Catherine MacLeod was a special adviser to Alistair Darling when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer and is a former political editor of The Herald. Andrew Dunlop was chief adviser to David Cameron and played a key role in the Government's response to the Independence referendum.
In this week's podcast, they chat to Eddie Barnes about how we can tackle the social, economic and political disenfranchisement being felt across the UK - and compare Downing Street drinks cabinets.
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